Monday, November 27, 2006

Punk and Christianity.

I was reading some I Object lyrics today and actually found a song i didn't really like and it made me think.

The song was about seeing pro-life signs and what not and how she doesn't want to see them because she thinks those people can't speak for those who have had abortions.

Which may or may not be true since many people in the pro life fight are abortion survivors themselves. But thats not the point. The point is that she didn't want to SEE it. As if the pro lifers didn't have the right to voice there opinions the same as she does.

That then lead me to Christian bands in the punk scene and voicing their opinions. I've seen it many times before. Christians getting wailed on for voicing their belief's while other bands can talk about whatever they want and get nothing(cept for maybe hasling for talking at all).

Its a real double standard. If you can talk, I can too without getting murdered for it.
You talk about satanism and i don't hang you for it.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well, first of all, I'm really enjoying the writing you're posting up here.
I'm mostly leaning towards your side of the argument on this one, however.. I really feel like there's so much more to this one than you might be considering. As you may or may not know, I am an abortion survivor. My baby's due-date is coming up really soon in fact, 12/6/06. The decision that I made 5 months ago is not only one of my biggest regrets, but it's also the reason I still wake up crying and the focal point of my nightmares. There are a million aspects of my story that would probably shock the average person, and it's definitely something I'm surprised I got through. However, I won't even go into that, I will only say the same this: there are so many emotions and chemicals and hormones running through a woman's body at that time, it’s almost an unreal experience. One that you can not even begin to comprehend unless you’ve been through it.
The decision I made was definitely one I regret, but it’s one I have to live with. And, with what I know and considering everything I went through at that time, a protestor outside of the clinic with a sign wouldn’t have appeared to me as someone speaking out, it would have been a smack in my face.
And to be completely honest, before I was forced to go through that experience myself, there was no argument or picture you could show me to change my mind. Considering that, I still stand beside pro-choice. Passing laws over someone’s body isn’t going to prevent death, only sharing compassion and support can do that.

Noxious Ideas said...

I agree 100%. My point wasn't that the right way to deal with abortion is mean signs and hate, i disagree highly with that even though i stand with the pro-life position. Abortion is not the simple removal of a child, its aspects reach far beyond the clinic. My point was really that they have the right to protest in that way just like pro-choice does. There may be a better way of course, and there is, but its the right of that group to use the method that they do.

You should start a blog here Abby, lets hear some of your ideas. And God and my prayers are with you, healing and redemption are not just abstract Christianese ideas.

Anonymous said...

I’m glad you can see where I’m coming from; following that rather distressing series of events I’ve found it really hard to get on the same page with the opposite sex (concerning that matter at least). And not to come off as being reverse-sexist or anything of the like, I’m thoroughly convinced that a male cannot truly understand what it’s like to be in that position.
Which reverts my thoughts back to the pro-life/pro-choice issue.. as I stated before, it’s an undeniable truth that a male cannot comprehend the mindset or any of the most intimate details of pregnancy. That being said, how can I, as a woman, agree to put power over that aspect of my body into the hands of a bunch of white men who were somehow deemed of sufficient qualifications to pass laws that effect the daily lives of billions of people?? In fact, how can anyone be given such an insanely high amount of power as to be able to pass legislation over another’s body? (Correct me if I’m wrong in assuming you’re pro-life & supportive of legislation, because you could very well not be.)

Noxious Ideas said...

I do agree that men can't understand the many aspects of pregnancy. The truth is, women can't completely understand every other woman because not everyone is the same, but i have a feeling and maybe rightfully so that its ok to overlook that in the context of the debate.

I do not believe though that the choice is left solely in the womans hands. You do not conceive by yourself. The woman may have to bare the weight physically but does not have to bare the weight of emotion alone. This though seems too much for American men who leave women to handle these things for themselves. So the predictement is quite difficult for a woman who gets pregnant unexpectantly. So the position that "This is my choice only" is understandable when over the years the men of the country have basically dropped it on the heads of millions of women.

I do not think that it is only the womans choice, when it truly involves a man who knows of the pregnancy.

I do believe in legislation of abortion. Thought I do not belive in cold hard "No and now deal with it", but a different approach that emphasizes adoption and can be more confidential.

Understanding the many pressures about unplanned children like peer/family review and financial disability. The approach would be available to the same crowd.

I believe law to be the expression of what is right and wrong. What we believe is right and wrong are to be law. Abortion is no different, but just because I believe it should be illegal doesn't mean i with hold my compassion from those who are dealing with this. I just think compassion should be equal.